Comments on: ISPs dream about changing their “service provider” focus http://phoenix.gargs.com/blog/2005/12/02/isps-dream-about-changing-their-service-provider-focus/ Saurabh Garg's Blog about Wonderful Things! Sat, 31 Dec 2011 15:02:05 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Odyssey » The Net Neutrality Debate http://phoenix.gargs.com/blog/2005/12/02/isps-dream-about-changing-their-service-provider-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-1073 Odyssey » The Net Neutrality Debate Fri, 23 Jun 2006 00:18:36 +0000 http://phoenix.gargs.com/blog/?p=60#comment-1073 [...] The first time I wrote anything about this ‘corporate plan’ was back in December 2005. The ISPs and telecom service providers were just opening up about this idea back then. What has become of the idea right now is a complete mess, a corporate disaster, and essentially undemocratic. [...] [...] The first time I wrote anything about this ‘corporate plan’ was back in December 2005. The ISPs and telecom service providers were just opening up about this idea back then. What has become of the idea right now is a complete mess, a corporate disaster, and essentially undemocratic. [...]

]]> By: Tim http://phoenix.gargs.com/blog/2005/12/02/isps-dream-about-changing-their-service-provider-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-153 Tim Sat, 03 Dec 2005 05:20:53 +0000 http://phoenix.gargs.com/blog/?p=60#comment-153 I followed you over here from the comment you left on my blog. You've made some good points, but I think you give the telecoms too much credit. These are companies with dying business models, desperately looking for revenue anywhere they can get it. Whitacre of AT&T says that Google, Yahoo, etc should not get a "free ride". This is not the language of a company trying to evolve a media to the next level, but one trying to feed off the cleverness of others. I admit I'm not sure how they plan to achieve this premium network service, but i'm not sure that they do either. I believe they simply want to charge the big players more for the existing service. But if they do plan on increasing their physical level of service, I think that necessarily degrades everyone else's level of service. If they do plan on building a physically separate network, then even worse for us. Segregation doesn't do much for equality-- you can count on the independent and democratic network degrading the minute the big dollars start rolling in for the "premium" network. An attempt to mirror traditional media where money equals credibility would be a sad day for the internet. I followed you over here from the comment you left on my blog. You’ve made some good points, but I think you give the telecoms too much credit. These are companies with dying business models, desperately looking for revenue anywhere they can get it. Whitacre of AT&T says that Google, Yahoo, etc should not get a “free ride”. This is not the language of a company trying to evolve a media to the next level, but one trying to feed off the cleverness of others.

I admit I’m not sure how they plan to achieve this premium network service, but i’m not sure that they do either. I believe they simply want to charge the big players more for the existing service. But if they do plan on increasing their physical level of service, I think that necessarily degrades everyone else’s level of service. If they do plan on building a physically separate network, then even worse for us. Segregation doesn’t do much for equality– you can count on the independent and democratic network degrading the minute the big dollars start rolling in for the “premium” network. An attempt to mirror traditional media where money equals credibility would be a sad day for the internet.

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